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Stephen; thank you for sharing your insights on this; and yes; I think we are living through something very significant right now; something that’s going require us to look deep inside as we try and find our way through. Your thoughts reminded me of Samwise Gamgee’s encouragement to Frodo in Lord of the Rings of what this may ask of us as we move ahead. I tried to find the quote I had stashed away but the clip from the movie will have to do:
This too shall pass …
Hindsight insight foresight, all is Better when viewed through a 2020 lense …
A quote from Joseph Campbell says, “ Where you stumble, there the treasure lies”…
Much global introspection is being achieved during this period of isolation …
A global transition is at hand .
Hope springs eternal …Current favorite quote today:
The waters of the fountains of inspiration dispensed to artists by the Muses, the liquor in the little pails of the guides and guardians of the mysteries, the drink of the gods, and the distillate of love are the same, in various strengths, to wit, ambrosia (Sanskrit, ‘amrta,’ ‘immortality’), the potion of deathless life experienced here and now. It is milk, it is wine, it is tea, it is coffee, it is anything you like, when drunk with a certain insight–life itself, when experienced from a certain depth and height.”
Joseph Campbell, in Creative Mythology (Vol. IV of The Masks of God), p. 80
Stephen,
It is the Wishkey of Finnegans Wake !!! It is wine distilled to fine Brandy served in a Journey’s port …
saluté
R³
Nice one Stephen; for some reason I woke up and saw this right after you posted it. I’ve been thinking a lot lately how much our idea of normalcy has changed since Covid came into play; (reading through some of our earlier exchanges seems to confirm this feeling). I can’t quite put my finger on it but there seems to be an extra hyper awareness of life’s fragility accompanied by a loss of control because of Covid’s ability to change leaving life’s promise of tomorrow somewhat more in question than usual. We are taught as children that life has limitations on certainty; and we contemplate these kinds of things constantly as we navigate our fortunes in a delicate dance between chance and time; so whatever gifts we receive from the muses are gratefully acknowledged. Here is a quote I remember Joseph repeated once; (although I can’t quite remember where); from the the Greek poet Pindar I think concerning the Olympics: “Odes for Victorious Athletes”
“Creatures of a day what is any one? What is he not? Man is but a shadow. Yet when there comes as a gift of heaven a gleam of sunshine, there rest upon men a radiant light aye, a gentle life.”
So I went back to sleep and immediately another thought kept surfacing surrounding the word “Raga”. So upon waking again I went and looked up various sources and definitions and came upon this one concerning: “Coloring one’s thoughts”. And what struck me about this co-incidence was the connection of a timeless Indian art form to a modern western application and the time and place in which this occurred. You may recall some of this material after reading the piece.
Always fun to muse about the muses and consider syncretic associations that Joseph Campbell and others expounded on .
R³
Robert; that was truly an awesome piece. I went looking for the listing of it in the foundation holdings which I left below; but it stated it was only available online. I included the Amazon link inside the title for those who may be interested. Stephen may have more of the backstory on this remarkable work.
In All Her Names | JCF: Works
Hi James and Robert!
I’m watching the store for Stephen. In All Her Names is a compilation of essays by various authors on the topic of the feminine divine, published in the early 90’s. Unfortunately it’s not one I’m familiar with! However, while it’s cool to read it is unfortunate that so much text has been published on that website. Doesn’t if figure that I log into the forums and run right into an intellectual property violation!
Cheers,
Michael
Hey Michael; great to have you filling in for Stephen. Sorry to hear about the intellectual property violation; but I hope all is well otherwise. I like you was not familiar with the work; nor that particular website either; and it seemed rather odd to have a listing of it with no background about purchase information included; (hence that is why I inserted the Amazon link). I hope that was okay since in the past Amazon was a go to source for purchasing foundation materials when listed as such. (In this case the book was listed but offered no information about where to purchase it so I assumed this was still: “standard operating procedure”.) Thanks for the background and update on this.
Thank you so much for this divine excerpt R³. Years ago, I came across this small hard-cover book at the Library of Congress in DC. The essay written by our JC, was a doozy. I read it over and over again and didn’t make much progress but left it to go back and read it. (As prophesied in The Poetic Edda,)
Excerpted from Joe’s Essay:
Comparing this remarkable genealogical fantasy with Berosso’s equally bizarre list of the years of reign of the antediluvian kings, and totaling the two, we find as follows:
Berossos Genesis 5 and 7.6
Antediluvian Years of Antediluvian Years tokings reign patriarchs begetting of sons
1. Aloros 36,000 Adam 130
2. Alaparos 10,800 Seth 105
3. Amelon 46,800 Enosh 90
4. Ammenon 43,200 Kenon 70
5. Megalaros 64,800 Mahalalel 65
6. Daonos 36,000 Jared 162
7. Eudorached 64,800 Enoch 65
8. Amempsinos 36,000 Methusela 187
9. Opartes 28,800 Lamech 182
10. Xisuthros 64,800 Noah, yrs. to flood: 600
[ = Ziusudra ] 432,000 1,656
Between the totals of Berrosos and the compilers of Genesis 5-7, there is apparently an irreconcilable difference. However, as demonstrated over a century ago in a paper, “The Dates of Genesis,” by the distinguished Jewish Assyriologist Julius Oppert, who in his day was know as the “Nestor of Assyriology,”(6) both totals carry 72 as a factor, this being the number of years required in the precession of the equinoxes for an advance of 1 degree along the zodiac. 432,000 divided by 72 = 6,000, while 1,656 divided by 72 = 23. So that the relationship is of 6,000 to 23. But in the Jewish calendar, one year is reckoned as of 365 days, which number in 23 years, plus the 5 leap-year days of that period, amounts to 8,400 days, or 1,200 seven-day weeks; which last sum, multiplied by 72, to find the number of seven-day weeks in 23 x 72 = 1,656 years, yields 1,200 x72 = 86,400, which is twice 43,200.”
In those days, the Library provided a cassette recorder and cassette tapes of Joe’s unheard (unknown to me) lectures. In one lecture Joe explains what Jung means by the term “collective conscious/collective unconscious” – That Jung meant two different things when he introduced the term. Marianne is aware of this distinction. Would love for you (Marianne ) to elaborate upon this distinction, if you happen to see this.
Thank you
Shaheda
Thank you so much for this divine excerpt R³. Years ago, I came across this small hard-cover book at the Library of Congress in DC. The essay written by our JC, was a doozy. I read it over and over again and didn’t make much progress but left it to go back and read it. (As prophesied in The Poetic Edda,)
Excerpted from Joe’s Essay:
Comparing this remarkable genealogical fantasy with Berosso’s equally bizarre list of the years of reign of the antediluvian kings, and totaling the two, we find as follows:
Berossos Genesis 5 and 7.6
Antediluvian Years of Antediluvian Years tokings reign patriarchs begetting of sons
1. Aloros 36,000 Adam 130
2. Alaparos 10,800 Seth 105
3. Amelon 46,800 Enosh 90
4. Ammenon 43,200 Kenon 70
5. Megalaros 64,800 Mahalalel 65
6. Daonos 36,000 Jared 162
7. Eudorached 64,800 Enoch 65
8. Amempsinos 36,000 Methusela 187
9. Opartes 28,800 Lamech 182
10. Xisuthros 64,800 Noah, yrs. to flood: 600
[ = Ziusudra ] 432,000 1,656
Between the totals of Berrosos and the compilers of Genesis 5-7, there is apparently an irreconcilable difference. However, as demonstrated over a century ago in a paper, “The Dates of Genesis,” by the distinguished Jewish Assyriologist Julius Oppert, who in his day was know as the “Nestor of Assyriology,”(6) both totals carry 72 as a factor, this being the number of years required in the precession of the equinoxes for an advance of 1 degree along the zodiac. 432,000 divided by 72 = 6,000, while 1,656 divided by 72 = 23. So that the relationship is of 6,000 to 23. But in the Jewish calendar, one year is reckoned as of 365 days, which number in 23 years, plus the 5 leap-year days of that period, amounts to 8,400 days, or 1,200 seven-day weeks; which last sum, multiplied by 72, to find the number of seven-day weeks in 23 x 72 = 1,656 years, yields 1,200 x72 = 86,400, which is twice 43,200.”
In those days, the Library provided a cassette recorder and cassette tapes of Joe’s unheard (unknown to me) lectures. In one lecture Joe explains what Jung actually means by the term “collective conscious/unconscious” – Joe sayss that Jung means two different things when he refers to the term collective unconscious/conscious. Marianne is aware of this distinction. Would love for you (Marianne ) to elaborate upon this distinction, if you happen to see this.
Thank you
Shaheda
Hello Michael,
Is there a reason that this book is listed at 11.89 in one place and 186.65 and then at 285.56 at another place. Both on Amazon.
Thanks for your answer.
Shaheda
Shaahayda,
Here’s some interesting side notes and associations
“The Greek translation of the Hebrew Bible is called Septuagint because 70 or 72 Jewish scholars reportedly took part in the translation process. … Aristeas determined that 72 scholars took part in the Hebrew-to-Greek Bible translation by calculating six elders for each of the 12 tribes of Israel.”
”The so-called 72-lettered name of God was said to have been invoked by Moses to split the Red Sea. … The mystical arrangement of the letters reflects the zodiacs, alluding to God’s mastery over the cosmos, and the kabbalistic “behinot” – the aspects of all of creation.”
R³
Hi Shaahayda,
I’ll field that question (I just arrived at our Airbnb in Harlem, and am about to go have an “experience,” but thought I would take a minute to check in).
The book has long been out of print. Those prices aren’t Amazon prices – they are third party book sellers Amazon allows on their platform for out-of-print books. The range of prices depends on the condition of the book, so you need to check each individual description. The highest price might be never used like new, and the lowest price might be used and in poor condition. When I’m buying from third party sellers, what I purchase depends on what I’m looking for – if I just want a copy to read and mark up, maybe a low priced used book in good condition will work; if it’s something I want to last forever (like one of Jung’s collected works, or his rare dream seminar volume) I’m willing to pay more for one in better condition.
We have no more control over those prices than what someone at a garage sale charges for a Joseph Campbell volume they own.
However, the Campbell essay that’s in “In All Her Names” is the one on the number of the Goddess in Campbell’s The Mythic Dimension, so if you just want the Joe essay, that’s the volume you want (also available as an Ebook through JCF).
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