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Reply To: Returning to the Void,” with mythologist Norland Telléz, Ph.D.”


This is fascinating Norland!
I’ve only heard and read about the Popul Vuh in passing references and this is wonderful to learn more about it!

Thank you!

The aspect of lightning brings a shocking clarity to this Creation Myth(Popul Vuh.)

Okay could not resist. But it is highly intriguing, especially when one considers the other “let there be light…beginnings…”

Now some of those beginnings seem passive in comparison.

When I think of lightning, energy comes to mind. Intense energy.
And it is poetic too:

master lightning, (Caculha Huracan)

lightning splendor (love that one) chipi calcuhla

trace of lightning. (raxa caculha)

There is almost a Hiawatha rhythm in the translation.

The heart of heaven (huracan) evokes another image with the sound of that word: “hurricane.”
Of course thanks to your proper translation and knowledge of the Popul Vuh, the definition is made clear.
But it’s funny that the word evokes the sound of another kind of storm.
Storms and lightning seem to go together. Sometimes.

When you speak of the Void and the words of creation can feel how the “word/words” are emphasized.

Yet I have also wondered about creation tales, which invoke “song?”

The word of creation as “the song of creation?”

It is interesting in this passage you quote how the Void ripples and murmurs and hums, before the One, Two, Three are born and play their part in creation.

This is the account; here it is: Now it still ripples, now it still murmurs, ripples, it still sighs, still hums, and it is empty under the sky. (Tedlock)

But song or word, it is still vibration.

And lightning energy.

So the Mayan concept of Creation is multilayered more than might meet the eye in a casual glance.

Then this passage brings other thoughts:

Then while they meditated, it became clear to them that when dawn would break, man must appear. Then they planned the creation, and the growth of the trees and the thickets and the birth of life and the creation of man. Thus it was arranged in the darkness and in the night by the Heart of Heaven who is called Huracán.


Tepeu and Gucamatz seem to be meditating and it “becomes clear to them, when dawn breaks man must appear.” And then they start planning.
This kind of conjures an image of creating not just based on decisions, but insight. Meditation? Clarity? Then action. They (think or meditate) even before they plan and act. And then their plan sounds like a blue print.
And Huracan puts that blue print into action in the night. It shows there is an “inspiration,” to be found first and an awareness of that inspiration comes next (what it is-Creation and when Man must arrive: dawn)

Then they make plans as the vehicle for realization of that inspiration.

And as night arrives, so comes the Heart Of Heaven in three bolts of lightning to bring the vision to life?

Not sure, but isn’t there some modern metaphor about inspiration coming like a “bolt of lightning?”

Yes, the “light bulb” over the head drawing might be more common for “ideas.”

But then that might depend if one is an Edison or a Tesla fan!

All that aside, this was a very enjoyable and fascinating read!

Thank you!